RE: AYF-News> (no subject)

[Chris Sithole <c_sithole@xxxxxxxxx>]

Carl,

Can you please explain to me why you think I am
ignorant. I also think yours is a typical response of
Americans to Africans. What do you really know about
Africa, and about the involvement of USA, CIA, and
Europe in Africa?  Who really is with out
understanding here? 

I would not define the person I was debating with
ignorant, and though I disagree with their
perspective, I did not resort to name calling. There
is some truth in what this person said, though I as
you can see, am not convienced it is the whole truth. 

Chris Sithole, PhD
Zimbabwe

--- Carl Bloice <cbloice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> sounds like a lot of ignorance on all sides.
> 
> carl bloice
> usa
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sithole [mailto:c_sithole@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:23 AM
> To: ayf@xxxxxxx; leorebello@xxxxxxxx;
> AYF-News@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: AYF-News> (no subject)
> 
> 
> Did it occur to anyone that it was an American who
> proposed that AIDS does not exist? Maybe the west
> would like us to think that so that we will not
> protect ourselves from HIV/AIDS.
> 
> Seriously just what is it we are dying of then, and
> we
> are dying very rapidly! Not like in the past. You
> can
> not blame this on economics because people all over
> the world are hungry, and they all do not have AIDS.
> 
> 
> You can blame the West for all of Africa's problems,
> but we really only have ourselves to blame. The CIA
> may supply us with guns, but we Africans chose to
> use
> them. We Africans chose to use child soldiers, we
> Africans may chose to rape little girls or murder
> children so our business can expand. In some ways we
> are very sick people, our culture is sick and
> outdated, and then we blame others for our actions.
> Until we Africans become more responsible for
> ourselves, we will never advance.  We will always be
> in the state of a third world. 
> 
> Get real, get responsible, get sober (I think we
> have
> more drunks in Africa, than on any other continent),
> and stop blaming others for our problems. Then maybe
> we can solve them and we can become respected
> people,
> instated of people who always look to others to
> solve
> our problems, and that is bound to fail because we
> have to do it ourselves. We need peace loving
> leaders,
> we need leaders that are competent, we need leaders
> that are humble, we need leaders that are not
> corrupt
> and murders! 
> 
> Chris Sithole, PhD
> Zimbabwe
> 
> > AIDS NO MORE by Dr. Leo Rebello
> > 
> > President, AIDS Alternativa International, 28/552
> Samata Nagar, Kandivli
> > East,
> > Bombay 400101, India. Telefax (91-22) 8872741.
> > Email : leorebello@xxxxxxxx /
> leorebello@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Website : http://www.healthwisdom.net /
> www.aidsalternativa.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > AIDS is the greatest myth of our times. Inspite of
> voluminous evidence
> > which shows that HIV is not AIDS, the myth is kept
> deliberately going so
> that
> > the following multi-trillion dollar industries
> keep
> prospering :
> > 
> > (a) Latex industry: condom in simple word, even
> children know its use
> > now. Boys and girls as young as 15, who were
> earlier
> afraid of sex, are
> now
> > experimenting with condoms giving rise to condom
> ethics, condom culture,
> > condom civilisation, condom protection, all of
> which
> is as fragile as the
> > condom itself. There are two types of condoms -
> male
> and female.The
> > production, sale and use of female condoms is very
> restricted. After the
> > 'condom accidents' the ever alert marketing men
> invented 'double hat'
> > protection that means using two condoms to be
> doubly
> sure! Simple logic
> > you see : if one condom can protect 50% two give
> 100% protection!
> 
> > (b) Eventhough HIV testing is unreliable,
> non-standardized and
> > dangerous, this is a big business. HIV tests
> include
> mostly Elisa and
> Western Blot,
> > which cross-react with over 70 known medical
> conditions and illnesses.
> > That means they are positively programmed to
> create
> scare!
> 
> > (c) Then there are microbicides, ostensibly to
> protect the women. Oils,
> > creams, lotions, potions, gels, pessaries and
> ofcourse other paraphernalia
> > like stimulators, scrubbers, hair removing pastes,
> etc. Presently there is
> > war between chemical microbicides and herbal
> microbicides for market
> > share. Consumer, as usual, is at the receiving
> end.
> > 
> > (d) But by far the most lucrative business is the
> chemical medicines as
> > usual - protease inhibitors, cocktails,
> anti-retrovirals, HAART or
> > multi-drug regimen, vitamin supplements. Costlier
> the medicines more
> > effective they are, is the false belief on which
> the
> mercenary medical
> > mafia cashes on.
> 
> > (e) Some one has 'invented' AIDS Counseling. The
> counseler is as
> ignorant as the patient. AIDS Counseling includes :
> telling HIV positive patient to
> live with it. Further telling him/her that there is
> no
> known cure.
> Scientists are working on Vaccines. Anti-retrovirals
> are life-savings. They are
> costly, but if you do not take them you will die and
> then what will happen to your
> family? If a patient were to ask about Alternative
> > Medicine, improved nutrition, change in life
> style,
> prompt comes the reply
> they are
> > all dangerous. Beware of the quacks! That in short
> is AIDS Counseling.
> 
> > (f) Then there are 'AIDS Advocates' (usually
> Americans but working in
> > sub-Saharan Africa) promoting the use of lethal
> chemical drugs and
> > fighting for and on behalf of the poor patients to
> reduce their price,
> influencing
> > health ministries to underwrite the costs of
> 'life-saving drugs' and
> promoting free or subsidised distribution of AIDS
> drugs, including to pregnant
> mothers ostensibly to save the unborn. If there is
> no
> food to eat, water to
> drink, clothes to wear, no problem. But you must
> have
> medicines, more the better.
> They refuse to accept that Nkosi Johnson, an 11-year
> old boy, died because
> of harsh treatment - 50 capsules/tablets, three
> times
> of
> > day. A 'single judge' (he is married alright!), in
> S.Africa decides what
> the
> > Presidential Panel of Expert International Doctors
> could not. Human rights
> > concern you see and he thinks he is the great
> Solomon and the President
> > S.Africa and his panel of experts are fools!
> 
> > (g) How can we forget the AIDS conferences and
> AIDS
> journalists :
> > local, regional, national and international? Big
> business. The same
> people,
> > sponsored by the pharmaceutical companies,
> parroting
> the same thing
> > without application of mind, running down those
> who
> question them,
> throwing to
> 
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