[A12n-Collab] RE: [Ltru] Macrolanguage, Extlang. The Sami language situatation as example

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Don

IMHO, possible use cases of the RFC, needs, unmet needs and gaps are
relevant to this WG and the development of the standard.  Where we need to
draw the line is when the discussion comes into the realm of re-designing
ISO 639 or making language classification decisions.  This is absolutely
beyond the scope of this WG and should be directed to ISO TC37/SC2/WG1 or
the ISO 639 JAC.  As this RFC is way over the timescale originally envisaged
for completion it is in everyone's interest to try to resolve the issues
that are within scope rather than focussing on issues that cannot be
resolved other than by external parties.  But this is just my humble opinion
in the light of trying to get the important issues, such as extlang/no
extlang resolved, the ultimate call is with the co-chairs.

Best wishes

Debbie





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Osborn [mailto:dzo@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 27 May 2008 21:04
> To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Leif Halvard Silli'
> Cc: 'LTRU Working Group'; 'A12n tech support'
> Subject: RE: [Ltru] Macrolanguage, Extlang. The Sami language
> situatation as example
>
> Hi Debbie, You are correct on this point. I do however think
> however that work such as that on RFC4646bis and other
> efforts such as writing of locale data (a subproject of the
> new PanAfrican Localisation Network project will coordinate
> efforts for up to 100 locales for African languages soon) can
> provide very useful information back to the standard.
> Basically in using or applying the codes in ISO 639 to
> various practical applications, we get a better idea of gaps,
> unmet needs, and even problems with the existing set of codes.
>
> Of course this is not a discussion to pursue on the LTRU
> list, but I hope there is no problem to have such issues mentioned.
>
> Don
>
> PS- For the cc to A12n-collab, more info on RFC 4646 is available at
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4646 , and on RFC's generally
> at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_Comments
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ltru-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ltru-bounces@xxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf
> > Of Debbie Garside
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:10 PM
> > To: 'Leif Halvard Silli'
> > Cc: 'LTRU Working Group'
> > Subject: Re: [Ltru] Macrolanguage, Extlang. The Sami language
> > situatation as example
> >
> > We are not here to classify languages.  We do not have that
> level of
> > knowledge in this working group.  It is totally out of scope.
> >
> > We are here to facilitate the availability of the ISO 639-3 code
> > within the LSR via the design of an RFC - RFC4646bis.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ltru-bounces@xxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ltru-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > > Of Leif Halvard Silli
> > > Sent: 27 May 2008 19:25
> > > To: Peter Constable
> > > Cc: LTRU Working Group
> > > Subject: [Ltru] Macrolanguage,Extlang. The Sami language
> situatation
> > > as example
> > >
> > > Peter Constable 2008-05-27 10.08:
> > >  >>Behalf Of  Leif Halvard Silli:
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